Large investments don't always equal big returns

By Steve Dinnen, Christian Science Monitor
Published on Friday, June 26, 2009

Q: I have always heard that if one invested over $100,000 they should expect to get an annual return of between 8 and 10 percent. If this is correct, where does one invest to get that kind of return?

L.M., via e-mail

A: It’s not so much the amount of money invested that predicts rate of return, says Jeffrey R. Schulte, a chartered financial consultant in Plymouth Meeting, Pa. It has more to do with the specific investment category.

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Stocks have historically returned around 10 percent on a long-term average that can have significant variance from year to year. To attempt to achieve a 10 percent return, an investor should build a well diversified portfolio across multiple asset classes. That would include stocks as well as both corporate and government issued bonds.

A portfolio invested to try to achieve a high growth rate is susceptible to inherent risks, says Schulte. The 2008 economy is more than emblematic of those risks. To help guard against the risks, a proportional allotment to the various global market segments will add diversification. In theory, when one segment declines another rises, thereby adding consistency to a portfolio.

Who backs civil servants’ retirement?

Q: When civil servants retire and they have been promised a retirement by the federal or a state government, where will the funds come from? Were those funds invested in the stock market? If so, is an additional bailout in order to keep our retirement promises?

S.J.W., via e-mail

A: Evan Welch, a certified financial planner in Concord, Mass., has analyzed retirement programs for a number of civil servants and has these observations:

• Most federal employees participate in the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP), a retirement program that includes employee deferrals – they’re subject to the same limits as 401(k)s – and often federal government contributions as well. TSP has various investment options ranging from U.S. government bonds to aggressive stocks.

• These portfolios are managed by the Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board, an independent government agency. They’re at risk is the same as with a private 401(k) plan because only the contribution is guaranteed.

Federal civil service employees have access to a traditional pension under the the U.S. Office of Personnel Management’s Federal Employees Retirement Plan (FERS), provided they have at least 20 or 25 years of service, depending on the agency. 

FERS and state defined-benefit plan payments are guaranteed by the sponsoring governments so if they lose money on one investment, they’ll have to make up for it elsewhere. That responsibility could ultimately fall to taxpayers.

I’m a federal worker who needs to retire early

Q: I am a U.S. State Department employee who plans to retire at age 53. My parents are not well and I need to care for them. I will be penalized immediately if I try to take advantage of my Thrift Savings Plan (TSP) money unless I take a lifetime annuity, which works out to my disadvantage because the payment never changes over my entire lifetime. My insurance agent told me there is something called a 72(t) payment for employees who wish to retire before age 55. I spoke with TSP people and they have never heard of this. What I found out on the Internet was so complicated it just confused me. Would you know anything about 72(t)s?

D.R., via e-mail

A: Under 72(t) “equally substantial distributions” may be elected if you roll the TSP money into an IRA, says Evan Welch, who answered the previous question. But, in order to avoid potential IRS penalties your selected income stream must continue either until you are 59½ or for five years, whichever takes longer. Your income stream can be calculated via one of three methods: required minimum distribution (RMD), fixed amortization or fixed annuitization. Remember, too, normal income taxes will apply to distributions.

Welch says he has never come across a client who elected 72(t) from the TSP, as all have rolled their money into IRAs. Still, he says if you can lay your hands on a TSP-70 form, you’ll find instructions on how to accomplish this task.

Got a question? Submit it to Steve Dinnen at money@csmonitor.com. Dinnen’s Financial Q&A column appears the first and third weeks of each month.
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Comments

AhniW wrote on Jun 19, 2009 10:17 AM:

" I purchased "The Federal Employees Career Transition Handbook" some time ago. In it there is an explanation of the different types of separations available to Federal employees and what their implications are. For those in the FERS retirement system; Minimum Retirement age (MRA) is the starting point and that age is different depending on your birth year. It is 55 for those born before 1948 and it gradually increases until it reaches 57 years of age for those born in 1970 or later. "

RetiredWell wrote on Jun 18, 2009 8:53 AM:

" Officially Retire = NO
But I took an early separation at age 51 and left my TSP funds where I can manage them on the TSP site. I get a monthly payment based upon my life expectancy of about $800 and will get the deferered retirement if I apply for it at age 56. Social Security when I turn 62. I have no debt and a nice savings account. I buy my own insurance and loving it! My family has some health issues and it is a blessing to be able to available to help when I am needed. "

Paula wrote on Jun 18, 2009 8:45 AM:

" CSRS and CSRS-Offset personnel can retire at 55 with 30 years service. The MRA (Minimum Retirement Age) is different for FERS personnel and I've never seen a FERS person retire at 53. "

S. Winters wrote on Jun 18, 2009 8:32 AM:

" How can this guy retire early at age 53, (see question above). Is his agency offering him a early out and if not I thought you had to be 55 to retire? "

LauraK wrote on Jun 18, 2009 7:30 AM:

" Everything is soooo complicated. The average person has to spend an inordinate amount of time and speak to many experts to find out what all the FedSpeak really means in order to make the best decision for themselves.

Hire a Financial Advisor and guess what, even among advisors one gets differing answers.

I am glad that I depend on God for my answers. He has done an excellent job in my finances so far. "

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