Someone will say yes to Rosemont Mine

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By David Hatfield, Inside Tucson Business
Published on Friday, October 16, 2009

I usually get why politicians do what they do, even if I don’t agree. A politician’s idea of long-term is to the next election — so that’s usually either two or four years, occasionally six. But that’s it.

Most politicians don’t care about a legacy. Some are better than others, but have you ever noticed how few of them ever achieve statesmen status? In my lifetime, the only two Arizonans who clearly achieved it were Barry Goldwater, the real founder of the modern conservative movement, and Mo Udall, a liberal Democrat who represented Southern Arizona in Congress for 30 years. They both ran for president and probably would have been better at the job than the two guys — Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter — who beat them.

But to illustrate the point about short-term political thinking, consider the idea of opening the Rosemont Copper Mine in the Santa Rita Mountains 30 miles southeast of Tucson. The politicians who’ve weighed in on it so far are opposed to it.

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It’s going to be a mine unlike any other in Southern Arizona, using state-of-the-art sustainability techniques to preserve water resources and recognize the scenic and conservation values of the area. All the while providing jobs to about 450 people being paid an average salary of $59,000 a year. Not to mention that it would be one of the very largest taxpayers in Pima County.

But who can blame some politicians for opposing the mine? It’s the politically expedient thing to do when you’re  Republican Pima County Supervisor Ray Carroll, who depends greatly on the votes of the retirees who live in the Green Valley area — and do they ever vote. They worry the mine might spoil their view of a pristine area. Never mind the fact the mine is on the other side of the mountain range and won’t look very much like the pile of tailings that’s already in their backyards from the Sierrita Mine. Or that the area is already riddled with shafts from more than 150 years of mining.

U.S. Reps. Gabrielle Giffords and Raul Grijalva have also voiced opposition to the mine, which makes for an interesting juxtaposition of two Democrats on the same side of an issue as a Republican. You’d think Democrats would join union leaders in their support of creating hundreds of high-paying jobs.

The deal is, as long as these politicians can keep the mine out of operation, it’s easier for them because they won’t have to worry about trying to appeal to the voters who would move into their districts because of their new jobs.

As any good salesperson knows, it’s a lot easier to find people who will say no. The tough part is finding someone who’ll put it out there and say yes.

Then again, that’s what makes a statesman.

Someday they’ll be pulling ore out of the Rosemont Mine. It might not be in my lifetime or in the political lifetimes of Caroll, Giffords or Grijalva, but it will happen. Somebody will say yes.

Contact David Hatfield at dhatfield@azbiz.com or (520) 295-4237.
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felipe wrote on Oct 26, 2009 4:51 PM:

" i cannot agree more. as with all things, we weight both the pros and cons and all the options, and make a calculated decision as a community. we do need the jobs. why everyone just simply decide to say no and side with the no-decision. "

seth wrote on Oct 25, 2009 9:32 PM:

" this area needs to recognize that we are dependent most upon tourism dollars. This mine will render the scenic route 83 into a wasteland. Money will go to Canada and the orient for what? A few short term jobs? China is eating our lunch with such short term thinking. We must defend and save what we cherish. If that is elitism than so be it. "

Truman wrote on Oct 21, 2009 6:04 PM:

" LOL! The Santa Rita Mountains are already changed by the habitation of man. It began many years ago with ranching and continues today with new housing communities springing up through out this area. The encroachment is inevitable. A futuristic view is one of co-existance including preserved parks and reserves, instead of unused space. Like it or not - it is already here. Employment is neccesary to survive and the elite view of have undisturbed wilderness is wasteful of natural resources that can help America get back on her feet. Instead of preventing this mine, we can work with them to minimize the impact by reclamattion and restoring the area into an improved habitational model. Furthermore, the Rosemont project bringing the Colorado River Water to Sahuarita is a major benefit for long term water solution in Souther Arizona. We need to increase partnership with industry, instead of villianizing them. "

Gold wrote on Oct 21, 2009 12:52 AM:

" I had a great time reading around your post as I read it extensively. I am looking forward to hearing more from you.

Regards,
Gold "

NXO wrote on Oct 20, 2009 3:07 PM:

" We constantly hear about the water shortage here in Southern Arizona. I don't understand why we would even consider providing water for such a project. If we want to toss that amount of water into an industry, get one in here that will provide much more wealth and job creation for the local economy (look at Intel in Chandler) and have much less impact on the aesthetics of our environment. Also, we have a significant amount of economic benefit from tourism & farming that will suffer. If this must be approved, put two provisos upon it: 1 - none of our water to be supplied to the mine, 2- up front escrow of $1.5 billion for remediation and restoration. As I recall Asarco just had to spend $1 billion, so perhaps an upfront escrow of $1.5B is too low... "

Renee Roberts wrote on Oct 20, 2009 1:29 PM:

" JoAnne, you could not have said it better.

Since Rosemont requires 900 million in investment (and ultimately more as costs continue to rise), I am relieved to know that there will never be sufficient investors to squander their money on this project.

Yes David, there are a few who might say yes to Rosemont, but only because they stand to profit monetarily from the destruction of a National Forest. Thankfully, our politicians have done their research, and have made more intelligent decisions when it comes to the Rosemont Mine.

JoAnne is correct. You should be more informed before stating your opinion, David.

As for the politicians who oppose this project, they ALL have my vote, whether they are of my political party or not, and I know thousands of others voters feel the same way. They have had the courage to say NO to this insane project, because it is the right thing to do. God Bless every one of them for standing up for what they believe in. "

NightHawk wrote on Oct 20, 2009 8:56 AM:

" Rosemont Copper says it is going to take trailings (white mineral laden paste) and waste rock. Then spread it out over 3,155 acres of the Coronado National Forest land. By their est. of 1,188,211,000 tons. Comes out to be around 376 million tons or so a acre. 173 cubic foot sq foot at 172 feet high. I know the streams and such will be gone because the mine will have drained everything dry anyway, and all the plant life will have died anyway. But they may come back someday, and it may rain. Where is all this toxic gunk going to wash to? They also say this will not harm the plant life or wild life or be seen. "

NightHawk wrote on Oct 20, 2009 8:54 AM:

" You should know that Chris J. Horquilla is a paid rep of the mining companies. "

Chris J. Horquilla wrote on Oct 19, 2009 8:47 AM:

" You know, the opinions of political leaders really don't count for much. It is the opinions of intelligent, hard working citizens of our community that will ultimately make the difference on this issue. Public opinion on the proposed Rosemont copper project has always been in favor of this environmentally responsible project irregardless of what the opposition says and will only increase as our citizens gain a better understanding of the issues involved.

Like leafs in the wind, our political leaders will eventually change their opinion about the Rosemont project or will be voted out office. It is as simple as that. "

JoM wrote on Oct 18, 2009 7:34 AM:

" Let me get this straight, "the politicians won't have to worry about trying to appeal to the new voters who move into their districts because of their new jobs" (at the mine) That's 400 jobs according to Rosemont. Politicians are going to worry about the votes of 400 people? And isn't the PR BS on this issue that Rosemont will hire these workers from the Tucson area?

You have obviously drunk the Rosemont kool-aid. Green Valley folks are anti-mine because they are very familiar with the air pollution when the wind showers the area with tailings dust and this mine would pump 6000acft of water annually for twenty years from the aquifer there (mine wells in Sahuarita) And they know that mines pollute the ground water as there is a sulphur plume in the aquifer moving toward Green Valley. And they also know that reclamation is a joke, no matter how many "Asarco cows" are used!
That's the west side of the Santa Ritas. Now consider the East side where Scenic Highway 83, a two lane highway, winds its way from the desert floor, climbing to more than 5000ft before revealing the serenely beautiful Sonoita Valley, gateway to many tourist attractions, Parker Canyon Lake, Patagonia Lake, Patagonia, Elgin wineries, the 45000ac Las Cienegas Conservation Area, Gardner Canyon, Santa Cruz Fairgrounds events (horse racing, rodeo, etc) Tourism powers the economic engine of these communities. People driving #83 consist of commuters,school buses, residents traveling for needed provisions and other Tucson services,emergency vehicles, Border Patrol vehicles, delivery trucks, horse trailers, hay trucks, cattle trucks,bicycles, motorcycles,motor homes, vintage cars, tourists traveling through the area or to special events-- which bring thousands to the general area. Many folks don't come as far as the Sonoita area, their destination is the National forest land at Rosemont junction, where they enjoy birding, hiking, riding their atvs on the wide trail to the top of the mountain for the spectacular view, horse back riding, a cool respite from the hot Tucson summers. Can Rosemont Mine co-exist with recreational pursuits? Can mining vehicles, 56 roundtrips 24/7 of ore trucks, plus 30 additional support trucks DAILY, hauling copper cathodes, diesel fuel, explosives, sulphuric acid--not to mention the 400 mine employees-----co-exist on Highway #83 with the vehicles ALREADY traveling the highway. Would ANY tourist of sound mind travel to the Sonoita/Elgin/ Patagonia area?? Scenic Highway #83 (with Rosemont Mine operating) would no longer be enjoyed as such and would be a deathtrap for those traveling it.
And, David Hatfield, this is only ONE of many reasons NOT to build Rosemont Mine. THINK about it before you write about it. Get the facts!
Your credibility is sadly lacking, considering your editorial position. "

Arizona US American wrote on Oct 16, 2009 3:40 PM:

" We worry about a tit mouse that may disappear from the face of the earth,
we worry about the bats flying all over Tucson that live under the bridge,
why don't we worry about OUR neighbor's quality of life and the devastation of the beautiful desert? Thank God, we have three people representing us who know the value of what will be lost, never to be recovered when it is gone.
I have heard a saying and it is appropriate to repeat..."What and who is a w - - - -?" .. Is money what makes the difference? Is it really just how much one will pay? "

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